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How many troops do we have in S. Korea, Japan, and Germany? Are those wars not over either??
As for healthcare reform...
was an unneeded scam from the get go... but we got what we were promised
So Jack you tell me: If you have a 17 year old daughter that just joined the army, she says daddy I get to pick my first duty station
1) Seoul
2) Munich
3) Tokyo
4) Baghdad
Your recommendation would be...?????
Using the list of cities above, which one requires US personal to where vest at all times outside their perimeter?
You forgot Panama, Haiti, Vietnam, and Grenada…
We still have a presence in the first two, number three we are really not welcomed, and well we did leave the island, but we turned Grenada security over to Carnival Cruise Line. They dump a couple thousand sunscreen Americans on it daily to keep the Cubans from coming back.
I totally understand what you are saying, but to say we are out of Iraq is a stretch. Maybe next year… just maybe...
I would be excited if my child got orders to 1, 2, or 3 for the next two years.
Number 4 not so much.
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You love to move goal posts, don't you?
You went from driving to a doctor doing surgery to a government goon with a gun.
Can you keep on one argument and try to win it without changing it for once? Is that possible with you?
/can't wait for teh ghey references 'n such...
My...my you do get pissy when you're on the wrong side of an argument.
Driving a car if properly managed, a beneficial activity, potentially threatening to life and limb when not properly managed. Do you think that there should be a restriction placed on performing this activity related to one's recent alcohol use...by your own statements you clearly do not.
Operating on one's heart, performing law enforcement duty, utterly beneficial activities when performed correctly and without cognitive, physical, or sensory impairment, but most definitely potentially threatening to life and limb when not. What's the fucking difference Artie?
Operating a motor vehicle is no different from anything else. The issue is alcohol. Should the public at large be restricted from certain activity that becomes dangerous to others when the operator is impaired by alcohol or should it not? Should the sober public at large be protected from the potential lethal effects of those who don't discriminate regarding their alcohol use...or should it not.
It's a yes or no question. Copping the goal post excuse doesn't float. |
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How many troops do we have in S. Korea, Japan, and Germany? Are those wars not over either??
As for healthcare reform...
was an unneeded scam from the get go... but we got what we were promised
How many troops were killed or wounded in S Korea, Japan and Germany, yesterday.
Two American soldiers were killed and nine were injured Tuesday in Iraq.
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Really...
Health Care reform? I don't think so - maybe a slight tweak after the big health providers gave their permission
End a war? Come on we have 50,000 advisors and a division worth of Mercenaries... oops I am mean private contractors in country
How many troops do we have in S. Korea, Japan, and Germany? Are those wars not over either??
As for healthcare reform...
was an unneeded scam from the get go... but we got what we were promised |
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I don't know if 44 is a racist or not. I don't know how deep his level of bigotry goes.
However, it does seem odd that any argument he poses against Obama, and I do mean any argument, y'all dismiss it as the rantings of some fringe racist lunatic.
Perhaps once y'all could answer him by actually showing how his complaint/argument has no merit on its own, rather than resorting to the same "well, you just say that cuz you're a racist and hate niggers and muslims!!!!11111".
I do not dismiss 44 as a fringe racist lunatic. I dismiss 44 as a fringe idiotic bigot. He's not crazy, he's stupid.
And the proof is in his attitude toward Islam, which is only slightly more fringe bigoted and idiotic than his attitude toward any other religion that is not his own. Want proof Artie? Plenty of posts here just in the last few days where 44 idiotically regurgitates the bigotry exactly as he hears it on Hannity and Limbaugh. That all of Islam celebrates the murder of innocent people by their erecting of mosques in "insensitive" locations.
Right. Any mosque location is an insensitive location to a "Christian" like 44. |
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Perhaps you're misunderstanding the fact that our current economic state is not much different to an addict's problem.
Our economy is addicted to borrowing. It is the fractional reserve banking and borrowing that has us in the current state we are in. Since borrowing is the addiction, borrowing even more is exactly like giving an alcoholic more liquor to get over his withdrawal symptoms.
Perhaps you oversimplify as free marketers often must do to make their meager case. Our economy is not addicted to borrowing. Our economy isn't addicted to anything. Individuals can be addicted, an academically founded system cannot. Our economy requires spending, not borrowing. Americans who live beyond their means are addicted to spending. It's a psychological problem, not an economic problem. People feel bad, people go buy new shoes or a new gun. If they don't have the money, they spend the bank's money.
The bank's encourage borrowing because it makes them money. The stock market encourages borrowing because the more borrowing there is, the more spending there is, the more spending there is the more active the economy is, the more active the economy, the more buying on Wall St.
An addiction is a primarily unconscious process. The nature of this economy is as conscious a process as it gets. |
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Seriously...
I'm not a big Obama fan but, he came into office on a platform of healthcare reform and ending the Iraq war...
done and done
I'm actually hoping the Reps take over house and congress... then maybe Barry will be as successful as Bill Clinton
Really...
Health Care reform? I don't think so - maybe a slight tweak after the big health providers gave their permission
End a war? Come on we have 50,000 advisors and a division worth of Mercenaries... oops I am mean private contractors in country
But Network News is reporting that both have occured - so I guess it is so. 
To his credit he has not lied... at least that we know of.
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Its the same thing as burning an American Flag by your typical anti-american hippie fuck on the street in protest.
Does this incite the enemy? I believe you meant, anti-war american, and their not all hippies.
You know what really incites the enemy? Our presense there, incites the enemy. Our invasion and occupation, incites the enemy. Killing 100's of thousands of civilians, that incites the enemy.
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No, that's why (and I'll repeat it again here for you slow learners) I say its a bad idea and I'm not for this sort of thing. I'm really disappointed in you liberals you know. You all mewl about free speech when you're proclaiming GWBush and our forces as maurading killers when its politcly expediant, but when its your ox getting gored (that's a metaphor for Obama having to deal with this for you slow learners) you smarmy little gutless pukes, get all squishy and whine like hyennas.
Is free speech free speech in this case or not? Its the same thing as burning an American Flag by your typical anti-american hippie fuck on the street in protest.
Principle is principle is principle.
Except to the left of course.
Bullshit, complete bullshit. As a vet I'll tell you there aren't too many Americans of either political party that proclaimed the American military as maurading killers... the only Americans I hear cheering Soldier deaths are the westboro baptists... and they aren't liberals |
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Seriously...
I'm not a big Obama fan but, he came into office on a platform of healthcare reform and ending the Iraq war...
done and done
I'm actually hoping the Reps take over house and congress... then maybe Barry will be as successful as Bill Clinton |
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If my child was dying of a heroine addiction, no, I would not borrow 2,000 more to keep him on his heroine addiction.
Even if it were to save her? So that you could treat her illness? |
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Perhaps you're misunderstanding the fact that our current economic state is not much different to an addict's problem.
Our economy is addicted to borrowing. It is the fractional reserve banking and borrowing that has us in the current state we are in. Since borrowing is the addiction, borrowing even more is exactly like giving an alcoholic more liquor to get over his withdrawal symptoms.
couldn't possibly have anything to to with tax cuts, deregulation, theories of "self regulating" markets and in general letting the corporations run wild, huh?
you dismiss insane voodoo economics theories that a 10 yr old would recognize as nonsense and ramble on about the fractional reserve system. bizarre.
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They did physical field sobriety testing, just like they do in addition to breathalyzers today. Perfectly acceptable in court. Like there weren't any drunk driving laws or DUI killings before there field breathalyzers.
But why are we not surprised that 44 would be a fan of drunk driving, considering his self-stated penchant for getting "wasted". What are you, 19?
Yes, there wasn't an arbitrary limit, it was based on your ability to perform. As artie said, he's fine at .8, his wife however, can't operate a comb at .8. |
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Menton,
January 2011 is coming!
I have remained silent and given BO his time to make a mark or begin a positive change for this nation.
Please tell me that in the 20 months he has now been in office, the only thing you can say positive about or defend attacks against him is to show us a George Bush picture.
Patiently Waiting
Colo
Well, obama hasn't LIED us into a new war, YET.
Also, when he came into office, we were losing between 600,000 to 700,000 jobs a month. That's no longer the case. Last six months there have been positive private sector job growth. I hope you consider that a "positive" change.
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I don't know if 44 is a racist or not. I don't know how deep his level of bigotry goes.
However, it does seem odd that any argument he poses against Obama, and I do mean any argument, y'all dismiss it as the rantings of some fringe racist lunatic.
Perhaps once y'all could answer him by actually showing how his complaint/argument has no merit on its own, rather than resorting to the same "well, you just say that cuz you're a racist and hate niggers and muslims!!!!11111".
I don't defend obama on many things, I just think it's odd someone would use the word "Reneger". I've never heard a president called that, or really any politician. Probably something that the brain trust at EIB came up with, right after the magic monkey song. |
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Of course, 45 NEVER complained one whit about this:  Someone who for 8 years never lied or had his veracity in question, right?
Menton,
January 2011 is coming!
I have remained silent and given BO his time to make a mark or begin a positive change for this nation.
Please tell me that in the 20 months he has now been in office, the only thing you can say positive about or defend attacks against him is to show us a George Bush picture.
Patiently Waiting
Colo
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I don't know if 44 is a racist or not. I don't know how deep his level of bigotry goes.
However, it does seem odd that any argument he poses against Obama, and I do mean any argument, y'all dismiss it as the rantings of some fringe racist lunatic.
Perhaps once y'all could answer him by actually showing how his complaint/argument has no merit on its own, rather than resorting to the same "well, you just say that cuz you're a racist and hate niggers and muslims!!!!11111".
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So...in Artie's world of libertarianism, driving drunk with no determination of the level of intoxication, would be perfectly legal. You're legal behind the wheel with a BAL of .08, you're legal at .405. Have I got it right so far?
As long as we're on the subject of drunk...would performing heart bypass surgery on one of your loved ones, at .405...that would be legal as well. No arbitrary limit. If the surgeon leaves a clip on an artery and kills your loved one, you can always sue for malpractice.
Cop is walking his beat drunk, sees you take your gloves out of your jacket pocket, in his double vision your gloves appear to be a gun and he shoots you in the head. No problem with cops walking a beat drunk, but we'll get the ones that shoot somebody in the head for shooting them in the head.
No criminal statutes involving any activity that might be, or even likely would be lethal to another human being, if performed when drunk. No arbitrary limit. Got it?
You love to move goal posts, don't you?
You went from driving to a doctor doing surgery to a government goon with a gun.
Can you keep on one argument and try to win it without changing it for once? Is that possible with you?
/can't wait for teh ghey references 'n such...
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Dragging in a variable not otherwise in evidence. Nice try.
Perhaps you're misunderstanding the fact that our current economic state is not much different to an addict's problem.
Our economy is addicted to borrowing. It is the fractional reserve banking and borrowing that has us in the current state we are in. Since borrowing is the addiction, borrowing even more is exactly like giving an alcoholic more liquor to get over his withdrawal symptoms.
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If my child was dying of a heroine addiction, no, I would not borrow 2,000 more to keep him on his heroine addiction.
Dragging in a variable not otherwise in evidence. Nice try.
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If your child was dying, and you had already borrowed 10,000 to try and save her and the doctor said, well we might be able to save her, but it will cost 2,000 more.
Would you borrow 2 more thousand, or just cut your losses?
Just asking.
If my child was dying of a heroine addiction, no, I would not borrow 2,000 more to keep him on his heroine addiction.
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I expected this from Howard. You surprised me.
Yes, I admit I started a thread about an unabashed liar who has a shorter expiration date on his promises than on a jug of milk.
There you go.
So the vast majority of board membership recognizing you as a bigot surprises you? BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAH!
You started a thread on the real Obama? Take a hike. I was talking about who Obama really is when you were still whining about Rev. Wright and Billy Ayers and his fucking birth certificate. You people with your focus on this braindead bigot/rightwing bullshit were the people who got him elected.
You're a latecomer to the real issues...as usual. |
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I think I just heard Howard shit!
They did physical field sobriety testing, just like they do in addition to breathalyzers today. Perfectly acceptable in court. Like there weren't any drunk driving laws or DUI killings before there field breathalyzers.
But why are we not surprised that 44 would be a fan of drunk driving, considering his self-stated penchant for getting "wasted". What are you, 19?
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We will behead any who deface the Holy Kora..... oh wait!
And , no prob bud. People have been defacing bibles for a loooong time. We're used to the demonstration. I don't think its such a good idea for this guy to do this, but if he bought the Koran, he can do with it whatever he likes.
Like you can do with yours assuming you don't steal one. Go buy one to burn.
So now that we've gotten our typical does of Christian whining victimization...who said you were all for this pious clergyman burning the Quran? Not me.
My post was about Terry Jones. Not everything is about you 44. |
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Over a Bible?
Please.
Maybe just put a smart bomb in your ear.
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Personally, I don't give a shit what this nut does. He's not a nut because he wants to burn the koran, he's a nut because he believes in the bible.
Burn away, one less religious book on this earth. Just wish he'd toss in a few bibles too. |
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I'm not the one wanting to burn a Koran. I'm also on record saying its a bad idea. But free speech is free speech. You think jihadi's won't kill our soldiers if this idiot is prevented from burning a Koran?
if there was an antiwar demo and petraeus said it would harm the mission, you and the rest of the right would be screaming that the demonstrators were traitors. |
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Step up if you feel so strongly about it.
And what would burning a bible prove anyway?
I think if we eliminated religion from this planet, it would be alot more peaceful. |
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| Who's whining? All I see is people saying that its really stupid for these idiots to burn a koran. you said so yourself. |
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